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2018年11月16日星期五

Tech 2 doesn't program for H2 above 2007?

"Dear All,
Please advise:
- what do you think of Tech 2 made in china?
- Is there any software close to Tech 2 to be bought which has access to all hummer h2 modules?
Regards, YF"
I bought my Tech2 from chinacardiags.com and it works great. Cannot really compare software with a Tech2 as that is comparing hardware to a program. That being said, there is a software side of things that work alongside the Tech2 which is the TIS2000 software. Getting that working is a bit of a project in and of itself as the software is old and seems to work best on Windows XP. The TIS2000 software is really not needed to use the Tech2 though - that is needed if you want to update the firmware in the various modules in your vehicle like the ECU, BCM, DDM, etc.
(Tech2:http://www.chinacardiags.com/wholesale/tech2-diagnostic-scanner-for-gm-saab-opel-suzuki-isuzu-holden-with-full-package.html)
Simply put though. There is no other tool that can do everything on your H2 that the Tech2 can do. It is the only tool with things that are very specific like calibrating the rear air suspension module. Other tools can be very powerful but that are mostly just have features that are common to many vehicles and will not have things that are specific to just one or two vehicles.
Originally Posted by faresmotors View Post
Tech 2 doesn't program for H2 above 2007... what to do in that case?
Actually it does the programming just fine on newer than 2007 GM vehicles BUT you must pay for an ACDelco TDS subscription for vehicles above 2007 and you would use the CANDI module that comes with many of the Tech2's for working with CAN bus vehicles. You can subscribe for as little as two days for $55.
https://www.acdelcotds.com/acdelco/action/subscribehome
This is ONLY needed if you want to program or update the software in a module. ALL of the build in diagnostics and testing for vehicles up to 2013 works without the subscription or the older TIS2000 software. You only need those for doing actual programming. The older TIS2000 software - that is what has the programming was discontinued in 2007. TIS2000 does have the actual programming for all vehicles up to 2007. After 2007 GM went to the TDS system.
You can also get a newer style MDI or MDI 2 for diagnostics and programming. The catch with those. They have NO screen or built in software and you must pay for a subscription from from ACDelco TDS to use an MDI.
Other brand units, a very select few can do actual programming and use the pass-through method. NONE have the diagnostics that the actual Tech2 or MDI (with the subscription) will have. Check with Autel and see if they have the full diagnostics and re-calibration for the rear air suspension on a Hummer H2. Not going to happen, there is too little demand for them to hack and reverse engineer that particular bit of code in a Tech2 to figure out the diagnostics and then write programming for that for their tool.
For programming you also need to have TIS2000 running on a computer or pay GM for a 24 month subscription for their TIS2WEB (Vehicle Programming) for $40 https://www.acdelcotds.com/acdelco/action/subscribehome
The computer will need a serial port for downloading the programming to the Tech2 for programming your vehicle.
The way programming works is you connect the Tech2 to the vehicle and tell it you want to program a module. It interrogates all of the modules on the vehicle for the current versions and the VIN number. You then connect it to the computer running TIS2000, GlobalTIS, or TIS2WEB subscription and select programming in the computer. It reads the Tech2 for the vehicle info and then presents you with a list of software for all of the modules and shows you which have updated software. I recommend only doing one module at a time which is a good bit more back and forth but safer. The computer then loads the update to the Tech2. You take that back to the vehicle and connect it and it then programs the module.
The best, most reliable and safest method is to use a long enough serial cable (its uses 9 pin serial adapters with an ethernet cable to make the cable longer - so you can just use a longer network cable) and do pass-through programming. In that method the process is the same but you leave the Tech2 connected to both the computer and the vehicle at the same time. Once you select programming on the Tech2 then go to the computer and you can immediately update each module right from the computer.
There is a slightly more updated version of standalone TIS2000 floating around on the web which has additional updates that has software updates for vehicles through 2009 as well. I know just using that TIS2000 both my GMC truck and my 2003 H2 both had a bunch of software updates available to be programmed all of which fix small issues or improve certain aspects. One example in on the older single compressor air ride like my 2003. Those would run and make small adjustments a LOT more often than needed and the software update fixed that. On the H2 the rear air ride is also one to be very careful of for doing software updates though. For example, my 2003 came with the earlier style single compressor but if it were to fail a dealership would replace it with the newer style dual pump compressor. Programming would still think its the original style and would attempt to program it and that would actually cause it to fail. TIS2000, (Global, Web, etc) will warn you about this sort of thing though so just heed all warnings and follow instructions and its fine.
The programming aspect is not needed or required to use the Tech2. The Tech2 still gives you a TON of diagnostics and tests that NO other OBD device has including things like the air ride module, detailed BCM functions, basically you can control and test every computer module in the vehicle.
Original:https://www.hummerforums.com/forum/hummer-h2-8/tech-2-similar-software-39227/page2/

2018年3月15日星期四

Tech 1a vs Tech 2 scan tool

Topic: Tech 1a or Tech 2
The Tech 1 and Tech 1a were made by Vetronix. Tech 1a was a updated version. I would not mess with a Tech 1.
Many cartridges were available. ABS and airbag stuff.
The best Tech 1a cartridge was the dealership 'mass storage' one. It could be updated with software. The MSC covered all GM systems. Powertrain, abs, airbag etc..
About 1994. The VIM OBDII interface cable was released.
GM support for the Tech 1a went away about 1996. Vetronix went on making software cartridges until a few years ago.
Currently, the Tech 1a is a obsolete scanner. It can have some use if you obtain a 'Global OBDII cartridge'.
In 1996, GM introduced the Tech 2. Produced by Hewlett Packard. Interesting, it used Vetronix written software.
The original Tech 2 came with a 10mb picma card. Latter units came with a 32mb card. You want the 32mb card.
At some point, Vetronix bought out the Hewlett Packard production line. Genuine Tech 2 now made by Vetronix and lots of clones by China. A HQ Tech2 China knockoff should be a good option if you have not many budget on it. But kind of confused for customers coz there are many types. See the chart: (not mine, copied)
Item NO.PackageWeight(kg)32MB CardCANDITIS2000 USB KeyHot Selling
SP23Plastic Case5.1YesYesYES★★★★★
SP23-1Carton Box3.5YesYesyes★★★★★
SP23-BPlastic Case4.8YesYesyes★★★★★
SP23-B3Carton Box3.2YesYesyes★★★★★
SP23-CPlastic Case8.9YesYesyes★★★
SP23-DPlastic Case8.9YesYesyes★★★
SP23-D1Plastic Case8.9yesyesyesjust add 1*sp23-v vci module
Here, no comments on China knockoffs. Only a working one.
With the Tech 2. Gone were the cartridges. The pcima card could be updated electronically.
You can update a Tech 2 by removing the pcima card, install it into an a different updated Tech 2, and tranfer the update to the pcima card.
About 2002. The Tech 2 Candi module was released. Allowed Tech 2 CAN bus access to cars like the 2003 Saturn Ion and Cadillac CTS using CAN.
More..just over a year ago. Bosch bought out Vetronix. The current Tech 2 is a Bosch product. Future Tech 2's may be green corprate color.
That is, a Tech 1a can go back to 1981 GM cars. A Tech 2 can go back to 1990. A card is available for the Tech 2 to go back to 1981.
What can a Tech 2 do? Codes for all systems. It is also a bidiectional tool. Examples: It can turn on/off fuel injectors for testing, enable EGR valves, enable trans solenoids, etc. In other words, alot.
You can also set vehicle sytem configurations. In my case, I can enter the cluster display and change it. Mine currently shows '2001 Cadillac DTS' on start up. I can also turn on/off the right mirror tilt on back up.
Very, very nice tool to have if you work on GM vehicles.
Forget about 10mb pcima cards. Go with 32mb.
Easy software updates.
Go ahead and get the CANDI module.
Figure around $3000 with CANDI module.
That being said. The Tech 2 is a diagnostic tool. What scares us is the air bag black box forensic tool. The Vetronix / Bosch CDR. The Tech 2 cannot access the crash data. It can be seen here:
http://www.airbagcrash.com

2018年1月24日星期三

GM Tech 2 Buying Guide

Received the Tech 2 clone today. Five days from China, not bad for free shipping. Checked it out and everything is working fine except the AC-to-12VDC power adapter (dead). No problem, because I can get one anywhere for $5. In short, that is a nice piece of equipment to have, very nice!
Aside from working beautifully with OBD2, the tech2 is the scanner for GM OBD1 to use. with the right software (plug in chips like nintendo cartridges) it’ll do some daewoo/suzuki, GM medium duty (meaning bigger than 3500 using non automotive OBD2 standards), and other in the GMdistant family tree too.
In addition to generic codes (P0000-P0999) It’ll do all the proprietary GM codes (P1xxx), actuators, and systems. you can also view fuel trims, emissions readyness (beyond a green LED for all OK) and It’ll talk to ALL the modules rather than just the ECM (and if you get into the $250+scanners, ABS) like BCM, SIR, entertainment, EVERYTHING on a GM. At school I used one with a 91+ cartridge on my 87 S10, so going back further is hit or miss but posible.
To adjust shift points and fuel consumptiona and Speedo, forget it.
The TECH2 can’t do any sort of modding/tuning, only upload GM flashes. At least with legitimate software. I’m sure someone has custom software to do it but there are easier ways nowadays.
Is it worth if you just want to read/clear codes on your own car once in a while, heck no. If you’re doing a lot of work on GMs or want to get a lot more in depth with your car, it’s worth the money.

No comment on China knockoff quality, I mean a working tech2, Chinese made or not.
See my tech 2 scan tool. It’s working well.
(put the site here and i hope i don’t break the rule; if you don’t need it, forget it! http://www.chinacardiags.com/wholesale/gm-tech2-gm-diagnostic-scannerworks-for-gm-saab-opel-suzuki-isuzu-holden-1011.html)